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En AI-klon af Photoshop vækker opsigt
So, I'm lying in bed last night and my phone absolutely blows up with everyone talking about the same thing: there's an AI clone of Photoshop that is basically feature complete, costs $70 one time, and works across Windows, Mac, and Linux.
My initial reaction was: yeah, sure, I've heard that before. But then I dug a little deeper, and my whole perspective changed. This isn't another basic "Claude, make me my own version of Photoshop with some basic tools X, Y, and Z." And it's not just Photoshop. Through what appears to be a combination of decompiling original applications and straight-up vibe coding, we're seeing projects as diverse as free clones of the entire Adobe Creative Suite to game mashups — where you can rip around on a skateboard in Modern Warfare 2, or play a hardcore Tarkov-style extraction shooter in the world of Skyrim.
Piracy eller fremskridt?
Naturally, this has resulted in an eruption of opinions. Some have been quick to condemn it as piracy, while others have called it a natural step in the evolution towards a future where paid proprietary software is dead and AI-assisted open source reigns supreme. What everyone agrees on, though, is that nothing will ever be the same again.
However, I feel like we might have skipped over an important point here. However this software is made — whatever the moral, ethical, and legal ramifications — none of this matters if these apps are not usable. I mean, Lord knows they're not likely to be maintained. So, I did the right thing and bought the $70 Photoshop clone everyone's talking about.
Wait — it's free now, as of filming. That changed in the last three hours. That's how fast things are moving right now. And the point is: free or $70, I tasked some of our professional users with trying to use this software. And whoa.
Første indtryk hos vores testere
"Oh, that's very slow to open. Just importing the images took a lot longer than usual. With Photoshop it's pretty much instant — this actually had to take a second to load. It seems like Photoshop is a little more well-tuned, right from the get-go."
"Immediately — I've been using this for 5 seconds — it is good enough for me to not notice an immediate difference. The menus… are they supposed to be just like Photoshop's? They seem very similar, if not the same."
"We're getting all sorts of errors. Game over. As someone who would be doing this professionally, having to wait this long for every tweak? I just wouldn't use it."
Hvordan laver man den slags software?
The first question that's got to be on your mind is: what is happening here? There are two main ways to build this kind of clone software.
The first, and the most complete, is decompilation. You take the binary code — the ones and zeros that run on your machine — and turn it back into the kind of human-readable source code that the original developer used. It won't be exactly the same code, but if it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is, for all user purposes, a duck.
Traditionally, decompilation has been extremely labor-intensive and tedious, which made it only make sense for very small projects, very important projects, or very obsessed developers. But AI has completely changed the game. You can tell your AI: "Take this gobbledegook of ones and zeros, of machine instructions with no comments, and turn it back into the source code that created it" — and it'll churn away on it surprisingly effectively, for as long as your bank account allows before it's drained of credits.
It's worth noting, though, that not all types of decompilation are the same. Kingy has a great blog post outlining the different kinds of things we call decompilation, and it's arguable that what Photon Studio is using is probably closer to functional reconstruction — where the new AI-generated source is intended to reproduce the same behavior as the original software, but has completely different bytes from the original source code. So really, it's more like AI slop with an original program as part of the input.
Test af de avancerede funktioner
"We got object selection, quick selection, magic wand… finding objects. That's the one I want. That worked pretty good."
"I usually don't rely on 'select subject' to do the crop 100%, but it gives a good starting point. I'd say that did a pretty good job — it lost the hat a little bit. Photoshop did a lot better with the hat. Right off the hop, Photoshop's automatic selection is so much cleaner. This requires almost no work from me on the Photoshop side; on the other one, a lot of work."
"That is literally the only reason I have subscribed to Photoshop: cutting out subjects from the background."
There were oddities, too: when selecting a subject, the clone grabbed parts of the image underneath the selected layer — something Photoshop doesn't do. RAW editing also fell short: raising shadows with the dedicated slider didn't come anywhere near what Photoshop's exposure adjustment alone could do, and the color mixer either wasn't working or was taking forever to update its preview. Layer moves showed the position updating while the image itself lagged behind, and right-clicks froze the app entirely.
Er det overhovedet lovligt?
Okay, so your next question's got to be: well, this is illegal, right? Maybe, maybe not.
One of the most interesting cases of software reverse engineering didn't even involve decompilation. I'm talking about the time Phoenix Software kicked off the affordable clone-PC revolution by creating an IBM-compatible BIOS without infringing on any of IBM's original source code. They did this by painstakingly studying and documenting the source listings in the IBM PC technical reference manual, then tasking a separate engineer — who had never read the original — with creating their own code that mimicked the APIs. Notably, this was deemed legal because the engineer who wrote it had never seen the source code, and therefore couldn't have stolen it.
Legal carve-outs for reverse engineering software remain to this day. Could that apply here? In the Phoenix case, it didn't matter how similar the result was to the original code, if the writer had never seen it. And the AI has never seen the original source code — at least, not that the data aggregators who created it would ever admit. But patent and copyright law can apply to functions and ideas as well, and all of this varies from one jurisdiction to another anyway. At best, we're in very murky waters.
Konklusion: "I can't believe it's not Photoshop"
So, now that our testers had fiddled with Photoshop and "not-Photoshop" — overall impressions?
"A lot more similar than what I was expecting. 'I Can't Believe It's Not Photoshop' is a good label."
"Hey man, if you want to do Photoshop stuff and you ain't got no money — this is a great alternative."
"I hate how much Photoshop costs. I've been trying Affinity, I've been trying Photomator. When I saw these popping up, I was like: maybe this is it. This one looks really nice — but I feel like it needs a year of tweaks."
Probably the biggest thing to keep in mind in all of this: while we focused on Photon Studio for our own selfish purposes — I hate giving Adobe money as much as anyone, and I would love a $70, excuse me, free alternative — there are numerous other similar projects, some individual efforts, some from groups attempting to do the same thing. Notably, the reaction to them has been more receptive than I expected, given the generally anti-AI stance of the creative community.
It's clear, then, that Adobe's memeworthy quality and ruthless subscription-only model has done enough to antagonize their customers that numerous creators are looking for the exit — even if that means being driven into the arms of Big AI. This is not financial advice, and I probably won't do it, but let me put it this way: I asked my wife today if she knows how to short a stock.
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So, I'm lying in bed last night and my phone absolutely blows up with everyone talking about the same thing. >> There's an AI clone of Photoshop that is basically feature complete, cost $70 one time, and works across Windows, Mac, and Linux. >> Initial reaction, yeah, sure, I've heard that before. But then I dug a little deeper and my whole perspective changed. This isn't another basic Claude, make me my own version of Photoshop with, I don't know, some basic tools X, Y, and Z. And it's not just Photoshop. Through what appears to be a combination of decompiling original applications and straightup vibe coding, we're seeing projects as diverse as free clones of the entire Adobe Creative Suite to game mashups where you can like rip around on a skateboard in Modern Warfare 2 or play a hardcore Tarov style extraction shooter in the world of Skyrim. Naturally, this has resulted in an eruption of opinions. Exactly. Some have been quick to condemn it as piracy, while others have called it a natural step in the evolution towards a future where paid proprietary software is dead and AI assisted opensource reigns supreme. What everyone agrees on though is that nothing will ever be the same again. However, I feel like we might have skipped over an important point here. However this software is made, whatever the moral, ethical, and legal ramifications, none of this matters if these apps are not usable. I mean, Lord knows they're not likely to be maintained. So, I did the right thing and I bought the $70 Photoshop clone that everyone's talking about. Wait, it's free now as of filming. That changed in the last three hours. That's how fast things are moving right now. And the point is, free or $70. I tasked some of our professional users with trying to use this software and whoa. Hopefully that's just a bug >> immediately. It is good enough for me. >> We're getting all sorts of errors. >> Game over. Like there's I just I wouldn't use it. >> Enjoy. Also enjoy the segue to our sponsor. >> Threat Locker. They make adopting a zero trust framework easier for businesses to navigate and their flagship event Zero Trust World is coming in February. Learn more about Zero Trust World and secure your tickets with the link below. >> Oh, that's very slow to open. Just importing the images in that took a lot longer than usual. Like with Photoshop, it is pretty much instant. This actually had to take a second to load. It seems like Photoshop is a little more welltuned, I would say, right from the get- go. >> Okay, this one just straight up doesn't open. Okay, well, I guess I got to do the the kimono dragon instead. Immediately, I've been using this for 5 seconds, but immediately it is good enough for me to not notice an immediate difference. >> So, the menus, are the menus supposed to be just like Photoshop 2? They seem very similar, if not the same. >> The first question that's got to be on your mind is what is happening here? And there's two main ways to build this kind of clone software. The first and the most complete is decompilation. In this case, you take the binary code, the ones and zeros that run on your machine, and you turn that back into the kind of human readable source code that the original developer used. It won't be exactly the same code, but if it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is for all user purposes a duck. This is so weird. >> Let's give him Terren's eyes. >> Terren's eyes. You know what? This doesn't have to be a perfect job. Oh god, what have we done? What have I done? Dude, this is so cursed. >> It's Italic. Cut out Llin as his head. >> There we go. >> Perfect. >> Oh, there we go. >> Wow. >> Oh, wait. Wait. Where's his eyes? Oh, no. This is not a tearing tongue. Now decompilation traditionally has been extremely labor intensive and tedious making it only make sense for very small projects, very important projects or very obsessed developers. But AI has completely changed the game here. You can tell your AI, hey, take this gobbledegook of zero and one machine instructions with no comments and then try and turn it back into the source code that created it. and it'll sit and churn away on it surprisingly effectively for as long as your bank account allows before it's drained from all the credits you're consuming. It's worth noting though that not all types of decompilation are the same. Kingy has a great blog post outlining some of the different kinds of things that we call decompilation and it's arguable that what photon studio is using is probably closer to functional reconstruction where the new AI generated source is intended to reproduce the same behavior as the original software but has completely different bites from the original source code. So really, it's more like AI slop with an original program as part of the input. >> We got object selection, quick selection, magic wand. Finding objects. That's the one I want. That worked pretty good. >> Usually don't rely on the select subject to do the crop 100%, but it usually gives like a good starting point. And I'd say that did a pretty good job. It lost the hat a little bit. Yeah, Photoshop did a lot better with the hat. I will say right off the hop the Photoshop like automatic selection so much cleaner. Like this requires like almost no work from me on the Photoshop side. On the other one a lot of work. >> That is literally the only reason that I have subscribed to Photoshop is for cutting out subjects from the background. >> Okay, that that's interesting. When you do the select subject or whatever, uh it'll usually just do like whatever layer you have selected. This one has grabbed some of the image underneath, which I don't at least I don't remember Photoshop doing that. Okay, so your next question's got to be, well, this is illegal, right? Well, maybe, maybe not. One of the most interesting cases of software reverse engineering to me right now didn't involve decompilation. I'm talking about the time that Phoenix Software kicked off the affordable clone PC revolution by creating an IBM compatible BIOS without infringing on any of IBM's original source code. They did this by painstakingly studying and documenting the source listings in the IBM PC technical reference manual, then tasking a separate engineer who had never read the original with creating their own code that mimicked the APIs. Notably, this was deemed to be legal because the engineer who wrote it had never seen the source code and therefore couldn't have stolen it. And legal carveouts for reverse engineering software do remain to this day. Could that apply here? It was found in that case that it didn't matter how similar the result was to the original code if the writer had never seen it. And well, the AI has never seen the original source code. At least not that the data aggregators who created it would ever admit. But then also patent and copyright law can apply to functions and ideas and all of this varies from one jurisdiction to another anyway. So at best we're in very murky waters right now. So Ree, you discovered something super interesting about this. When you were raising and lowering the exposure dial. >> Yeah, >> cuz these are both taken in RAW. You should be able to bring up the shadows just like this. >> Yeah. So, if I if I try to do it even there, even if I use the shadows uh slider, it doesn't even bring up the shadows anywhere near where the even just the exposure on Photoshop can can do. >> It's got a color mixer that's always uh extremely handy. >> Yeah. Is that grabbing the correct colors that you expect it to grab? >> It's either not doing it or it's taking forever. Updating preview down here. So, doesn't seem like the color mixer is working that well. Uh Whoa, that's okay. I'm guessing hopefully that's just a bug. So, like this. I'm selecting my face layer right now. I'm There we go. I'm moving it around. It is moving the position of the image, but the actual image itself is not updating. It's like lagging behind. Wow, that was crazy lag. I right clicked and it just was a while until it click. I' I've clicked. I've rightc clicked. There it is. as like someone who would be doing this professionally having to wait this long for every tweak. Game over. Like there's I just I wouldn't use it. >> Okay, so now that you fiddled with Photoshop and not Photoshop overall impressions >> a lot more similar than what I was expecting. Uh and I mean I I think the I can't believe it's not Photoshop is a is a good label. >> Hey man, if you want to want to do Photoshop stuff and you know you ain't got no money. >> No, I think this is a great alternative. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I hate how much Photoshop costs. I've been trying Affinity. I've been trying Photomator. When I saw these popping up, I was like, maybe this is it. But this this one here, well, it looks really nice. Maybe it I feel like it needs like a year of tweaks. Probably the biggest thing to keep in mind in all of this is that while we decided to focus on Photon Studio for our own selfish purposes, I hate giving Adobe money as much as anyone, and I would love a $70, excuse me, free alternative. There are numerous other similar projects. some individual efforts, some from groups that are attempting to do the same thing. And notably, the reaction to them has been more receptive than I expected given the generally anti-AII stance of the creative community. It's clear then that Adobee's memeworthy quality and ruthless subscription only model has done enough to antagonize their customer group that numerous creators are looking for the exit, even if that means they're going to be driven into the arms of big AI. This is not financial advice and I probably won't do it, but let me put it this way. I asked my wife today if she knows how to short a stock. Now for a short segue to our sponsor, >> Threat Locker. 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